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The second sentence sounds like a mess. "In the present progressive"?

whitehelm wrote:The second sentence sounds like a mess. "In the present progressive"?

Thank you -- I will change it to "I'm currently in the process of discovering that they still are hard to get along with."

An explanation follows for the curious.

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Firstly, it is literal and correct -- Ryu uses this here as an interesting way of emphasizing the ongoing nature of the situation.

Original Japanese for reference:

…いや、今でも苦手であることを現在進行形で確認中だがなぁ。

My thoughts were that it's a slightly unusual choice of wording in both languages, but clearly deliberate, and should achieve the same effect and be just as understandable in English as it is in Japanese, so I could find no reason to change it.

However... on a deeper search, although rare, I can actually find other attestations of this kind of sentence structure in Japanese and none in English, so what I thought was Ryu being creative with language in a way that transfers equally to English, is probably just an example of a rare but established Japanese sentence construction that needs to be localized.

Examples of this form in use:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22現在進行形で探して%22
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22現在進行形で没収%22
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22現在進行形で実行%22
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22現在進行形で向かって%22
Seems to work with a lot of verbs, even though each individual one doesn't have many results (be sure to navigate past the first page to get a truer count).

It should be 12 am, not pm.

whitehelm wrote:

It should be 12 am, not pm.

Thank you very much for the report -- though I feel slightly guilty because we actually got there before you It was already fixed in the latest alpha builds.

In fact, I'm a little surprised that you didn't have the fix, since it was found a couple of weeks before December 11th, when we posted a public beta update. Either we somehow didn't include it, or you must be on a slightly older version. (If so, please note that you can't just update the script on its own without also updating the other components.)

In any case... an interesting error caused by a difference in how Japanese and English represent this corner case.

……もうじき、午後１２時を迎える。

In episode 3: http://i.imgur.com/xMFX6Eh.jpg

It should say "another thing comin", not "another think comin"

Google the phrase and you'll see it's a bit contentious, but regardless, this is actually the second time we've had this line reported, and lines that bug people like that should probably be changed, so I will actually change it this time Thanks for reporting!

In the EP2 Characters, Rosa's execution bio, "thanks to the idiot" should be "thanks to idiocy." In Japanese, "baka" can mean either the idiot or idiocy. The latter is more appropriate in this context.

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Referring to

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Battler

by simply 「馬鹿」 and saying it is his fault is a common theme of the ep 2 Characters pages. I think it is far more likely that this is yet another instance of this pattern.

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Kinzo:
ついに悲願の黄金郷に辿り着く。またしても馬鹿が認めなかった為、魔法は再び台無しに。
Finally reached the Golden Land he so desired. The Idiot was once again unwilling to accept that, so the magic was spoiled for a second time.

Genji:
無欲なる家具は、黄金郷で安息しか求めない。しかし、馬鹿が頑なに黄金郷を拒むため、彼の安息は当分訪れそうにない。
The unselfish piece of furniture sought nothing but repose in the Golden Land. However, since the Idiot stubbornly rejects the Golden Land, his repose is unlikely to come anytime soon.

These pretty unambiguously refer to a person.

(Battler is set up as the idiot earlier, in the ep 1 characters texts:

Jessica: a single idiot refused to believe in the witch, and all of the magic went away.
George: all of the magic was spoiled thanks to a stubborn idiot.
Battler: If only this idiot could just hurry up and see you like the rest.)

Sorry, I missed your hidden spoiler. Now I see what you mean. I was confused because at the end of EP2 Rosa refers to herself as

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idiot

. And the official Taro card has her under that title. But you are right the identity of

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idiot

is someone else, if we refer back to EP1, Tea Party...

YNagato wrote:But in English at least, it doesn't work. "Thanks to the idiot" would sound like there is a third party who is an idiot and is responsible for something bad that happened to Rosa. But "thanks to idiocy" would eliminate that ambiguity. To say "thanks to idiocy, someone suffers some result" precisely means "it is his fault." But to say "thanks to the idiot, someone suffers some result," we actually imply the idiot is someone else, not the person who suffers.

Which is true, the idiot is a third party/someone else.

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You are reading it as I wrote in the first spoiler tag, right? In all these cases, the 馬鹿 (the Idiot) referred to is Battler, not Kinzo/Genji/Rosa. Battler is blamed in the ep 1 texts for not believing in Beatrice, making all the magic fail, and causing everyone not to be able to go to the Golden Land -- and he is blamed for the exact same thing again in the ep 2 texts.

That's the reason for the capital "I", by the way -- it was meant to indicate that "the Idiot", made into a proper noun, is a singular existence which is referred to across the texts, not just a description for a person who changes according to context.
Confusing, but no more so than the Japanese, I fear, given that you understand Japanese too...

Edit: Saw your edit. Don't sweat it, it's good to have a double check

EP3, "The Witch's Courtroom"

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Since it is a negative sentence in the Japanese original, here instead of saying "A feels like B," the sentence actually means "A feels NOT like B," implying "A feels less than B." May I suggest modifying the translation as: "To this Battler, it feels even less perceptible than two dragonflies passing by his sides."

Sure. That's certainly closer to the original. Will fix.

Ep 2, Chessboard Preparations, "seasaw"

Whoa. Thanks!